9/23/2012
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Sony Marketing VP John Coller reveals his thoughts on Wii U and PS Vita, more details inside.......
"We tell our PlayStation fans all the time that what the Wii U is offering is something that Vita and PS3 can do quite easily. It's dependent on the content. So we need to make sure the content isn't force fed. And, to us, making sure that the gamer receives the right type of experience is what's most important. So we're gonna pick our spots, but that technology does certainly exist here."Also the website is NOT closing down. The announcer was a troll, it is not true. no official announcement will ever be made in the comment section.
Let us know your thoughts on the PS Vita and Wii U in the comments below!
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http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/playstation-3-ps-vita-offer-wii-sony/
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If the vita doesnt start getting some nice exclusives, I think that unfortunately the WII U will do better than the vita
the wii u is already on it's way to do etter than vita, it's sold out in the US already, I'm excited for it, the vita will be a great system in a few months, hell, jet set radio on october 16th :0
but sure the vita can do what the wii u can, but only with the help of the PS3 and a few select games, that's $500 right there, with the Wii U at $300-$350, like I've said many times before, the vita needs a price cut and better games
But the Vita and the PS3 are separate consoles, so Cross Play costs $500--and most games on the system aren't built for it. The WiiU has the Gamepad out of the box for $300-$350, so devs know it'll be standard. That gives Nintendo a HUGE advantage on that front.
I don't understand why Sony thinks they can compete with Nintendo on this, or why they would even want to. They should be marketing it as a handheld, not a controller with a screen. -_-
Well, but if you think about the fact that almost every Vita owner already has a PlayStation3, it's not really paying 500$ for the cross-play / cross-control features. It's not like people are buying both systems at once just for those features. I think if one owns a PlayStation3 already and then buys a Vita, they then own a portable system AND those features as an extra. So, if one owns a PS3, they only pay 250$ for the things the WiiU can do.
How the fock is it the same as wii u, and plus u hav to buy the game for each ps3 and ps vita, its nothing like wii u, John Coller has Fockin lost it, Seriously i wasted money n time buyin a ps vita, anyways thats me sayin, all ps vita owners will soon realise
You're fucking dumb.. Sony did the cross buy if I buy a game for vita I get the ps3 version for free.
I bet it can do things the wii u can, but not everything, probably like only 50%, but the thing is sony isnt utilizing this. Also sad thing is, in the first week of the wii u launch its probably going to sell more units then the vitas whole 11 months. And yes i have a vita
It already has some nice exclusives, people just won't bother taking the time to play them.
my friend wants both, I have both, but either way, no one is buying a vita i the first place due to poor software
I like sony's arrogance on the situation, they know they can go far with tee system, and that it will take time now, but they're getting lazy again, so a price cut would still be nice
the vita just needs to prove itself, at least in my opinion it does
Sony should really bundle the Vita and the PS3 together at the price point of $350-$400 and throw 1-2 games in with the bundle. Some people are indeed rich or just glad to raise the amount of money to buy both the Vita and the PS3, but some aren't. Although I think this is something addressed to the current PS3 owners. I want to get a PS3 this Christmas. Hope the new sexy 500GB model riches my shitty country until then.
Yes, true but the fact that it already does what it says on Wii U's tin is good enough. Most people spent that $500 over the space over 4 years. Sure the software line up isn't there but it never set out with the intention of beating Wii U. But I can easily see them contending with them in the coming years.
I have no interest in the Wii U, but considering that the system's already sold out at several stores you're probably right. *sigh*
I think its a little early in the life cycle to be saying "I wasted my money" or "Its failed". This just isn't true. PS Vita is picking up speed. By this time next year it will be a force to be reckoned with. I cannot however deny that at the minute it could have a much stronger line up.
but the wii u will have more than one decent game at launch unlike vita , plus it wont have mediocre titles slowly released at a snails pace ! dissappointd with my vita so far - never been let down by a nintendo system before .
how can they claim that ?? the vita cant do 1080p , still utterly crap at cross platform and only has a very small amount of games released considering the market .
Yea it "can" but where? where are the games? anyways, what i am not sure is if the Wii U is made to travel if it is actualy a portable console, what i think is that it is useless without a wii thats why the sell thogether so its just for playing at home right? like a tablet with controls, is not like you can carry it to school or work and play, thats what i think, the vita is more of a combination between a DS and the WiiU, you can play outside and crossplay even outside, and use as a control in yea a little amount of games at the moment but in overall i think the Vita is much better it has better potential but, they are not using it :/
Yea it "can" but where? where are the games?, anyways, what i am not sure
is if the Wii U is made to travel if it is actualy a portable console,
what i think is that it is useless without a wii thats why the sell
thogether so its just for playing at home right? like a tablet with
controls, is not like you can carry it to school or work and play, thats
what i think, the vita is more of a combination between a DS and the
WiiU, you can play outside and crossplay even outside, and use as a
control in yea a little amount of games at the moment but in overall i
think the Vita is much better it has better potential but, they are not
using it :/
But spending $500 over time isn't the same as spending it up front from a sales standpoint. That's why phone companies don't charge $1200 upfront--even if it meant not paying any monthly bills for 2 years, people wouldn't do it.
Sony just needs to focus on the Vita as it's own console IMO. Mucking up the system's marketing even further will make things worse.
Listen dum-ass its only for a few games, and not every production games will do that, dickhead
Chris right, wat the fuck ur on about, i said soon u will realise, they'll probably make a slimmer version or a full hd display to support cross over, 'man u all are dumb '
as much as i fucking hate nintendo their Wii U is going to do fantastically well and good reason for it, even though their like 7 years late with the current gen cosoles (you know what im talking about the wii was nothing more than a fucking PS2) the fact that theres going to be a legend of zelda game in HD is going to make me want the console
It all depends on what you want and what you are going for in a gaming system. There are maybe only a handful of games for any gaming console that i would want to have the console for. But i personally liked nintendo before the wii, it just never caught on to me, it felt like a gimic and still does i dont get the point.
I was always taught that there is a major difference between the words "can" and "will". Every Wii U will be sold with a controller so it makes more sense to utilize these features. Every PS3 doesnt come with a Vita. And since nobody wants to buy a Vita, very few developers will invest the extra $ for this feature. But stupid FONY doesnt realize this and wants to keep living in fantasy land. Thats why Nintendo>Sony
I disagree my friend, just because you didn't like any of the titles available for the vita doesn't make them mediocre, to start off the wii u will have remakes of titles that already exist such as batman arkham city for example, it's a great game but if you already have it for ps3 for example would you want it for vita? That would be dumb, what Sony did is bring new titles to the vita that we are familiar with, but unique and innovator. So far the titles for the wii u I'd be interested on is zombies U and Mario Land all other titles I believe already exist for other consoles. So how can you say Sony launched mediocre titles for wanting to go into new original titles comparing to a console that will have the games that are already out for other consoles? Come on, give me a break. You are one of the same old same old who will keep playing call if duty like its the only good title. Move forward towards originality boy, stop crying over dumb games that are practically just unoriginal. Some gamers are sick of war games and zombies war like games. And I approve this message, currently a real marine! Not one that exist in video games.
Um.. the Wii U's controller doesn't output 1080p either, it's 480p (lower resolution than the Vita's screen, which has 1.2x more pixels).
It's the console itself that outputs 1080p through HDMI to your TV.
Nintendo limited the amount of pre-order consoles available so it looks like the product is in high demand. Companies tend to do this kind of trick all the time.
Assuming $400 for a PS3, Vita, and 1 game, Sony would be losing a net $200 for each purchase.
A slim version is kinda-sorta possible, however a full HD display will never happen. Games are programmed specifically for the 960x544 resolution except in a few cases of 720x480 which is upscaled.
To upscale from 960x544 to 1920x1080 is not feasible because raster graphics such as your HUD, or any game that uses sprites would become very pixelated when compared to the vectorized 3d display. Ever play Ocarina of Time in an emulator and force the rendering to your screen size? You'll see what I mean.
There is a reason HD remakes take time to develop, and can't just be plopped on a new console (that has higher resolution output) without any effort.
Well all the reports say the Wii U is at about the same level more or less graphically to that of the Xbox 360 and PS3. The difference here is that the Vita actually has its own processor and graphics chip when compared to the Wii U controller, which is just a remote display that the Wii U itself must render and send the signal to.
So technically they could set it up like the Wii U where the PS3 sends the video signal to the Vita for display, or they could have the Vita help out with the actual processing, or just do its own processing (like the setup in All Stars Battle Royale).
There's a lot of different options and I don't think you'll be able to tell much of a difference graphically between the two setups. It's just that Wii U developers are forced to have the controller in mind when making games for the console while PS3/Vita developers aren't. So the PS3/Vita setup isn't really feasible as no one will really be developing games for it.
Have fun paying another $300 for a current gen console thay could very well be outdated next year! :D
Enough said my friend. Derrenerton you can go suck it!
Nobody wants to buy a Vita, you say? That's obviously why this website exists.
never dissapointed with a nintendo system before? still got memories of when i bought a nintendo ds over a psp, and while my friends were fighting wars and shooting stuff, i was stroking a fucking dog... nintendo works for housewives and 8 y/o kids... ps.: i also have a nintendo 3ds... it's been in the drawer since i got my vita at launch...
Think i'm on my 20th game on the Ps Vita now, certainly no shortage of games i like.
feel the same way! my 3ds will be dusted off when pokemon white/black 2 comes out.
Well that can be either way, the ps3 and vita can do what the wii u does, despite price and such.
If sony do it right (or rather did, its getting a bit late now) but they had a wii U a few months ago, just failed to push the vita and ps3 to its limits to destroy wii u before it was released.
Correct, the wii U's pad is just a less capable ps vita, which needs its main console nearby to work. Sony have something remarkable at there fingertips but same as always, fail to make magic happen, i still think theres an xbox spy in there destroying the company from the inside
But gaining more potentional customers (most likely ones that would go get a wii u) maybe not for $400 as thats too much of a loss, but a nice bundle deal wouldnt hurt.
Plus you'd get like 30mins battery life with full HD, no point, vitas display is great as it is, someone Delete My-X's posts please, guys a twat.
Not to mention the minimum 25+ comments per article. And there are 150 to 200 article's? Assuming that everyone who comments is different, there would be over 800 people commenting regularly. Bitch.
YOU........YOU TROLLED THE F**K OUT OF ME!
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I agree, Nintendo has NEVER released anything bad. Check out this awesome vintage Nintendo system of their past brilliance! The 3DS beta version?!?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVAp0tOk5A
Well, 150 for Vita and 250 for ps3 manufacturing costs, a Sony game in bundle and Sony looses only cost of a Sony game. But gains much needed buyers of the games and many subscriptions in poor countries. Manufacturing costs are from google latest :)
Lol for all we know nintendo guy has a vita and ps3 but he loves to fight so hese trolling this site
Take the Vita wherever and play Cross-Play games. Wii U controller can't leave the room. If you own a PS3 get a Vita. Totally worth it. Amazing system function and PS+ coming to Vita as well. I'm passing up on Wii U because I already own the better.
Actually everyone relax and sit back and watch Sony slay the WiiU! A friend of mine that works for Sony's gaming department has let me know a few secrets that have blown me away! Let's start with something called the Wikipad, which will make use of Sony Mobile same as the PS Vita. And the Wikipad will be using PlayStaion Cloud which used to be called GaiKai to play full PS3 games. And this also is coming to the PS Vita in the next few months! So who cares about the WiiU still??
Don't you guys ever close down this site. I don't give a f#ck what other people say about the Vita. It IS the best handheld gaming console around. It's a shame that it doesn't get the software support that it deserves.
I will bring my Vita to school to play some Wipeout or something and have some fool rip on me for using the Vita. They're just like, "Dude, get a smartphone".
I simply say that I prefer to not play the shitty quality mobile games while I have the option to play PS3 quality games on my Vita. I then proceed to give them a bunch of other reasons why the Vita kicks ass.
They don't mess with my Vita after that anymore. No sir.
yes same here i have a 3ds for the the only purpose of playing pokemon and imported japanese games :p but my vita ..even tho im disappointed in the slow past releasing of the games im stilll happy with it.. atleast from now til December there are titles worth playing coming out
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My 3DS is underused too. I actually upgraded to an XL (at no cost to me), and I'm beginning to wonder why I bothered. All the 3DS games I want release next year... finished Kingdom Hearts on it a few weeks ago, and bought a downloadable title only to play it for an hour- haven't touched it since.
Something else- I never take my 3DS out while I'm in public (if I have it with me, and I rarely do, because I only have it when I'm using a backpack- and even then I rarely take it). I'll take out my Vita just fine though- dunno why. I think it's because the 3DS looks kind of funky, and the Vita looks more... fashionable?? Dunno.
I can see it now- Sony surprises everyone by revealing that the Vita, PS3, and PS Move/Eye Toy are actually the PS4. It has next gen graphics via streaming from the service they bought a few months back- Gaikai. Bundled for $350. Or you can buy an actual PS4 that doesn't stream for $600.
Naw, just kidding. Doubt that would happen. Would be cool though- save me a decent chunk of cash.
In all fairness, the Wii U is actually more powerful than the current consoles on the market by a good margin. It has four times the RAM of both the PS3 and Xbox (they both have 512MB, Xbox has shared RAM, PS3 has split RAM- 256 for OS, 256 for gaming). If rumors are any indication, it will be equivalent to the gap between the (least powerful) Dreamcast/PS2 vs. the Gamecube/Xbox (most powerful). So the gap wouldn't be too huge- if the rumors are true.
Could be because a lot of kids have it . I notice that at my daughters doctor appointment and grocery store. . Not trying to take a shot at you .
what do u think about Assassin'screed liberation,call of duty,soul sacrifice,tearaway were the great upcoming exclusives of Ps Vita...
street fighter x tekken,nfs most wanted,little big planet,ps all stars were the great awesome games coming to Vita...hereafter no one can use the lame reason that vita does not have good game lineup..
TEARAWAY game can only be enjoyed in ps vita...no other console is capable of that..bcz VITA has its own great features(hardware)
It's cool. Didn't feel like an attack on me at all. In fact, only two of my friends know I have a 3DS, and most of my friends know I have a Vita.
Most of the people I see with 3DSs tend to be teenage girls. Don't really see many guys with them.
Yeah I had 2 3ds one for me and my wife always stood in the house took it out to a appoitment then saw a 12yr old with it we sold them and bought 2 vitas lmao . And never looked back plus didn't really have a lot of games we liked for 3ds same games as the dslite. Plus we have 2ps3 so it made sense.
Bravo!
It is slightly more powerful than current gen if I can reiterate on my previous statement. It is not powerful enough to label it a next gen console though. The cpu is underclocked compared to the PS3 and 360 although it has a better GPU. When the PS4 and 720 hit stores, the Wii U will be the "Wii" of thr next generation.
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You obviously never got the DS, and 3DS. It was torture the drought I had to endure. And the launch line up, was horrible.
This, I will always buy nintendo products for their IP's, and Sony products for their IP.
On topic: I don't give a shit if sony can do what the wiiU does, just give me games. That's all I want, games.
Not just zelda, but the rumored Star fox, the inevitable Metroid, hell even the new mario (not any of those lame NEW series) and Super Smash in HD
Ima be a happy gamer
Great IF you like those types of games. I was hoping for more in the way of RPGs but so far no joy :-(
Graphically the WiiU is stronger, the only only thing the WiiU is less than stronger in is, the processor wich is clocked weaker than the 360.
And where exactly is this source where you get you're so credible facts from?
For all we know MS and sony might go the casual route, or maybe they'll even take notes from nintendo and release a console that is only stronger to the WiiU by a margin. MS might go all ass out and do that full blown kinect console.
We don't know yet, if can reiterate on all my previous post, Nintendo/Sony/MS could go back to 8bit Graphics if its next in line, then its next gen. Regardless of power.
Think of it this way, Senior GWB had a son, GWB JR, but GWB was born retarded. Now his lack of intelligence doesn't mean he's not the next in line in the family. He's still the next generation, regardless of what he's capable of.
Actually the reports say the wii u graphics are better, just think about it why wouldnt it be.
Since the ps3 sends the video content to the vita via wifi, that means it could create some lag of some sort where as the wii u is connected directly to it, and the wii u has a pro controller similar to the 360 if you dont want to use the game pad.
Also developers probably don't want to develop for the vita because of the slow sales and you can see that all the cross play stuff is all sony first party. I really want the vita to succeed but i feel that sony doesnt try hard enough and dont really listen to their audience
You have to admit you are atleast a little disapointed in the vita. The only game that I like right now is gravity rush its probably my 3rd favorite game of all time. The games coming out soon that im looking forward too are persona and all the games sony announced coming in 2013. The wii u also has special content on the games that are port. Also in 3 months the wii u will have atlease 50 games they said where as the vita will have about 60, in 3 months they will have almost as much games as the ps vita had in 1 year
As DS_Troll already eluded ... there is a massive difference between 'can do' and actually does.
Remote play is a no-brainer from a dev point of view, DON'T DO IT !!
As a dev, remote-play will cost you time and money to implement, reduce the PS3 resources available to the actual game and reduce any future revenue you may get from porting the game to the Vita. Sony must think other devs are stupid ... even Sony first party devs haven't released patches so their own games can use remote play! Take Killzone for example ... why hasn't Sony released the much falunted remote-play feature on this game ? the simple answer is it will cost them to implement, generate no extra revenue, need them to rewrite the game a little to cope with the reduced performance available to the game ... and probably the biggest reason ; it will potentially damage sales of Killzone Mercenary on the Vita.
The Wii U controller is just a TV with Joysitcks so none of the above applies .... even the drop in performance (if there is one) is moot as all Wii U games have to use it.
Wake up Sony ... take the devs and their problems out of the equation, make remote play part of the environment / OS that the games run on and not part of the game ! Hell lock remote play down to Vitas in the same location as the PS3 so it just works as a screen and a joystick like the Wii U , devs would be much more receptive to that as they can still make a 'portable' version of their game that people can play on the move.
Turn the Vita controls into just another PS3 controller i.e. send all input data to the PS3 over bluetooth, stream all the video and sound to the Vita over Wifi. Separating the two will help ensure the Vita is in the same location as the PS3. Lower the compression on the sound and video making it less practical to stream over 3G if someone tries tunneling up the bluetooth and streaming. You could then give devs the option of allowing remote-play over 3G as an in-game purchase to balance out lost revenues from a separate 'portable' version.
Come Sony, man up and stop whining about who isn't doing what and just get it done !
Personally I'm going to wait for all 3 next gen consoles to be announced before deciding which one/ones I'll buy. I doubt I'm the only one either.
"still got memories of when i bought a nintendo ds over a psp, and while
my friends were fighting wars and shooting stuff, i was stroking a
fucking dog.."
I seriously busted out laughing when I read that, oh so funny and oh so true.. stroking a fucking dog.. lol still cracking up about that.
I had a 3DS for literally two days before I decided to take it back.. That is bad coming from me.. it takes a lot for me to even want to go through the trouble to returning something.
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